Posted in Pick Up Labs Stamp of Approval on January 8th, 2009 by Bravo
Last weeks opener was a fun one. I wanted to give you one that would help your inner game by manning up and trying something super far out of your comfort zone. So even if it didn’t open successfully you still gained from it, I am still proud of you.
This weeks mission is one from my personal vault. I developed it shortly after reading the game, I hated using canned material so as soon as something from my life could turn into a real opener, I used it.
Your mission-
This one I am clearly more invested in, so stick to the script and don’t half ass it!
Can not WAIT to see the results.
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January 8th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
Finally! Something not as apocalypic! Anyway, this one looks not only tons easier to pull off, but DHV a lot quicker. This will be fun…
January 9th, 2009 at 1:10 am
Make me proud boys!
Don’t give my shit a bad wrap!!!
January 9th, 2009 at 12:12 am
tomorrow baby.. this one looks like fun
January 9th, 2009 at 5:24 am
It’s funny, anything after the A/O will seem easier than pie!
January 9th, 2009 at 7:57 am
So, did you hook up with the waitress?
January 9th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Of course I contacted her!
We hung out a few times and had a wonderful time!
I ran such solid game that she tracked ME down, of course I had to follow up!
January 9th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
As u know bravo I’m off on holiday very soon! in an hours time in fact! I didn’t wanna miss a mission so as soon as i finished packing, i had a quick nap then headed on out n tried this opener! i didn’t really have much time to read this or practice it and I only did this opener once. Heres my result:
1. Does it open successfully? Yes very well! I completely screwed it up in my opinion but yet it still managed to work! I opened a 2-set with it. One listened and one went straight on her phone. However, 3 quarters of the way thru the opener the girl on her phone ended up “hanging up” (don’t know whether she was actually on the phone or not) and ended up butting into the conversaton to give her opinion. at first the other girl also seemed a bit wary but half way through she suddenly changed and opened up to what i was saying. definately think it deserves a a 5/5 for a first try! (5 being a highly successfull open).
2. How difficult is this routine to master? Well i only read over it once and personally I find it difficult to remember long stories. After trying it for my first time and only remembering the basic points I felt I screwed it up a bit. I didnt put the DHV spikes in as much as I should but I managed to pull off enough to get the set hooked. With practice I could have pulled it off soo much better, but for starters I’d give it a difficulty of 3/5 hardness to master (5 being hardest). It gets this “middle” rating mainly for the fact it definately needs some practice to get it right, but even without any practice, as long as you remember the main points, a set can still hook with it.
3. Did you get called out on using this routine? Nope. Only used it once. 0/5
4. What is the hook point strength of this routine? Its obviously an interesting story with good ol DHV’s! Other people want to get involved with it. Its fairly a long opener, which personally im a fan of, especially in quiet places. However, I only used this in the smoking area of the club the once and didnt use it inside the club as I felt it was too loud to say the whole opener. But anyway, I rarely have girls coming back if they go on their phone when i’ve approached, but with this opener it dragged the girl back. Just from this one approach i give it 5/5 for good hook point strength.
5.Rapport building strength? When i used it I feel there was some rapport. When you ask about “what if a guy did it”, it allows them to open up a bit and talk about any of their experiences. For an opener regarding rapport building i’d give it a high 4/5.
6. Your PUA-AFC level? Same as it was last week
7. Number of times tested? Just the once
But better than nothing i say!
8. Any additional insight? When I first read it I felt this was money (as cosmo would say), and since I only had one experience with it I cant expand much more, but this is definately one opener that I liked the sound of from the beginnng. I plan to add it to my toolbox! Good stuff!
January 10th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
SOLID-F#CKING-GOLD. . . .
Used it twice. Once on a 3 set and. . .
ONCE IN A 12 SET. . . The expression of the 12 set was AWESOME. . . Response was awesome. . . More tests tonight.
January 10th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
heeey guys i Just got back from outside..I live in croatia and now its 5 am…what a crazy fucking night…I didn’t test this opener but this is called pickuplabs, I went out and test my new opener..I bought cool watch with leather belt and two of my female friend have the same and I got in arguing with them that this is mens watch..so I decided to go out and ask people what they think about it..the opener work fucking great in mix sets girls sets. I opened 7 out of 7, it amaze me how good it works so if you need new opener to not worry to be called on one used in the community try this one..Hey guys, what do you think about this watch? it cool nice blabla..do you think this is male or female watch? ( they go definitely male blabla) the reason why I ask you is because my 3 female friend got the same and tell me that it is women watch..no no they a crazy its man blabal…thats opener you can do it with any item you have ring, necklaces..and on the last set I opened I luckily so my girlfriend coming in club before she saw me hehe in the set…and badboy was in the club with students, we met him and he just cool and good guy he had some great stories, and he just opens gils while we talk to him by pulling them in too, no need for over shoulder talk just pull them in your set hahaha…he told us about craziest shit test I ever herd..he told something to women normal and she true glass of water on him, he the went to bar and get it the big glass of gallon of water and get it on her hahha and then sit next to her..he ask her why she trough water on him..she said it was test and he is only real man here..hahahah crazy..
p.s. if you have web page and take picture of girls in the club, send female photographer it will be more successful..my friend was taking pictures out and some girls didn’t wanna be pictured..and I told him give to my girlfriend photo camera and every girl wanna be pictured from her…
aa what a night
January 11th, 2009 at 2:30 am
Bravo is going to give this Myspace the stamp of approval! Not because he’s going to be biased, but because this shit works like a charm!
I live in Phx, AZ and headed out to Tempe Marketplace. Solid 9’s everywhere I looked! Saw a gorgeous girl sitting at a table with another girl and a guy. I handed $15 to my friend and told him “if I don’t open that set, u keep this. If I do open, give it back to me.” I stood there for like 30 secs, my friend was like “dude, go do it or I’ll be $15 richer.” I told him, “I’ve got a little AA right now!” My other friend was like “3…2…1…” And then I went into that mixed 3set and delivered the opener. I got all 3 of them hooked within 15 seconds and had great responses. The end arguement was, hey, if the waitress went through all that trouble to track u down, that means she’s definately into u! I stacked forward into the best friends routine with the 2 girls (using the shampoo one) and also the rings routine which I got called out on by my “obstacle”…she told me she took 2 yrs of greek mythology and never heard about that before. I just ignored her and stacked forward. After running out of material I told the 3 of them how cool they were and I’d talk to them later (the guy really dug into my material…I had him laughing and high fiving me).
20 mins later, a couple of my friends are like “hey, you’re getting summoned over there” and apparently the 2 girls were trying to get me to come over there again, so I did. Make a long story longer, I hung out with them the rest of the night and even introduced them to my friends. I wound up closing the bar with the 2 girls and the guy after my 3 friends went home. I got 2 numbers (the guy, and my target…the other girl was with the guy). So it was a cool f*ing deal!
Testing the MySpace Opener:
1. Does it open successfully? Absolutely! 5/5
2. How difficult is this routine to master? Just remember the key points and tell it like a story to connect the rest! 4/5
3. Did you get called out on using this routine? No, this was an original! 1/5
4. What is the hook point strength of this routine? It really got everyone in the group engaged! 5/5
5. Rapport building strength? I was able to use the opener to build rapport with the guy and the 2 girls (the one girl, the obstacle, was first shittesting me and cockblocking but I won her over and was able to get some alone time with my target). The guy even told me that [my target] was definately into me but not to f*ck it up and she’d be all mine. 5/5
6. Your PUA-AFC level? 3/5
7. Number of times tested? I only needed to test it that 1 time and hooked so well I was in with them the whole night! Definately will add this one to my arsenal!
8. Any additional insight? My target asked me how hot the waitress was. I told her “well if you’re an 8, she’s a 9) Which was a damn good neg that almost backfired on me but got my target to qualify herself.
I was confident this opener would be gold and it fulfilled it’s expectations. Thank you, Bravo!
January 11th, 2009 at 4:19 am
This is what I do!!!
And funny, I used this for the first time in Tempe when I was learning the ropes!
January 11th, 2009 at 11:24 am
*ALERT*
*ALERT*
*ALERT*
My boy used this opener LAST NIGHT (actually so did i, a LOT. Without fail). . . BUT, when he opened the set, the girls asked him, “Are you like some sort of pick up artist or something?” After seeing the VID of BRAVO on the ELITE forum of what he does when he gets called out, I quickly moved into set and responded with, “WHY yes, aren’t we all at some point? Infact, if you look around there are cameras everywhere and you are going to be on TV.” The ladies laughed and shortly after, he number closed his target. Out of atleast 10 times ran lastnight between me and him, we only got called out ONCE, but it still ended up in a number close of what I would consider a “GIRL NEXT DOOR HB9″. . . .
January 11th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
I just posted a FR in SL.
Great job on this one Bravo.
January 11th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
http://www.stylelife.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=60410
For MANofPARTY
January 11th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
I tried it out several times last night and this afternoon and Bravo I must say “Respect” this worked so well it was almost scary
1. Does it open successfully? Undeniably 5/5
2. How difficult is this routine to master? Remember the key factors and make it sound natural like your own story 3/5
3. Did you get called out on using this routine? Not once 1/5
4. What is the hook point strength of this routine? Very strong it got everyone in the group in a heated discussion and locked on me 5/5
5. Rapport building strength? It got my sets interested in me greatly and kept referring back to it 4/5
6. Your PUA-AFC level? AFC 2/5
7. Number of times tested? 5 times definitely adding it to my stash thank you Bravo
8. Any additional insight? The less detailed I talked about the waitress the more hooked, especially on mixed sets.
January 11th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
Used this twice Saturday night. That also happened to be my “off” night of the last two months. But I have great news to report, even though I flopped around the club like a fish out of water: the opener did indeed, open. And well.
Set1: Two blonds talking very animatedly to one another on the backside of the couch my wings and I had. I open them and the furthest one away from me immediately turns away and talks to someone else. I run the opener verbatim really. I even say “mojo” and “laying it on real thick”. I don’t normally use those lines/words, but none the less, it was in the name of science. She gives her advice, but doesn’t seem that talkative about the subject. I bring up the double standard gender issue. That topic last about 30 sec. Opener ends and she turns back to her friend.
I thank her and return to my wings. I see a “nice” wedding ring as I walk away and one of the male pool players walk towards her as I leave. Hehe.
Set2: I try and get out of my “off” night state and open a 2set of “hefty” looking college women. I only grab ones attention right away, the other is on her cell phone, not caring. The first gives me arm kino on purpose about halfway through. Before I could get move to the part of the opener where the waitress finds you on myspace, the girl asks “soo what is the question?” laughing. She’s having fun, but she still had no idea what I needed help with. I tell her to hold that thought, and finish the opener. She says she horrible at giving advice. We both laugh and I continue the conversation onward for her. We talk about stalkers. When she asks my name, I give her an evil eye and call her out for going to myspace stalk me too! Little more banter and I eject. Not attracted to either of them to continue game, they served their purpose and had fun.
Does it open successfully? Yes. Even though I ejected after it, it did none-the-less open and keep the set engaged until I finished it. If the opener doesn’t keep the target/groups attention until it is finished, then I would consider it a rejected opener. Not this one.
How difficult to master? 3/5. There is a certain order of how you throw in the DHV stories, but they simple,easy stories. As I drove to my sarging city, I was reciting it to myself in my car. I stuttered through it for about 15min, before saying it smoothly in a fake conversation.
Did you get called out? No.
What is the hook point strength? For me, 0/5. When I finished the opener, I stopped talking for a couple seconds. The sets didn’t re-engage. The first set seemed un-interested, the second seemed too shy.
Rapport building strength? No one had their own personal story to share. I would have to say 0/5.
PUA level? 2/5
Number of sets opened: 2. As am up and coming psychology, I know the importance of having multiple subjects, and two is not enough.
Comments: This felt like telling a story, rather than an opinion opener. Both sets responded, ultimately with “yes, I should meet up with this girl”. They said yes in such a way that seemed to indicated ‘isn’t this obvious you should meet her?’ I think I need to tweak some things here and there for myself. I know what works for some, won’t work for others. But overall: Yes, this works. It opened and held their attention till finish.
-Metz, Stylelife
January 12th, 2009 at 10:07 am
What I wrote is exactly what I say! Don’t sugar coat or tweak when testing, try this stuff!
-of course be ready if they ask which place, to have a name ready, friends names, etc…
January 12th, 2009 at 9:32 am
I did it mofos!
It’s on mp3.
I slightly lamed up on the delivery, and didn’t go out in the evening for pub sets, so sub optimum testing.
And Waterstones girls – it’s like talking to corpses, they’re always totally inert!
But the boots girls rocked. And that was a proper test because there were two, and they responded like Bravo said they would.
Small errors in delivery – leaning back on books which headed towards a suicide plunge off the table. Crossing legs out of nervousness in Waterstones (doesn’t suggest authenticity as why nervous for casual question?).
Agreeing that my friends were cool (nerves).
Long time since I’ve done an opinion opener, this must be one of the best!
And I missed out Bravo’s middle line about ‘next time’ very girl thought that, I like it.
Slight problem both sets noticed the metal clip of my mp3 player. I am concerned about this.
Also I love the mixed set aspect.
Download from Uploading.com
[the same file]
http://uploading.com/files/ZUHJTPFT/V005.WAV.html
[boots 2 set]
Download from Uploading.com
same file:
http://uploading.com/files/IWPJA8TH/V006.WAV.html
Be nice guys my voice is shaky and not at usual energy because I hadn’t practiced the opener in set.
I hate my voice anyway so I don’t want critcism of it at this time.
Apart from speed, don’t mind that.
January 12th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Oh yeah the questions
1.
Does it open successfully?
Yup, totally does.
Would like more contribution from them, but I expect that’s partly my delivery distracting them.
2.
How difficult is this routine to master?
Well people prefer the goof opinion openers cos’ they’re simple, this is a big lump of script.
It works, even with shaky delivery, but lazy buggers aren’t gona use it.
4/5 (pretty easy)
3.
Did you get called out on using this routine?
Well the metal clip of my mp3 player was noticed. But no.
5/5
4.
What is the hook point strength of this routine?
Well they enjoy the story, and Bravo’s wording.
Contribution from them could be better.
4/5
5.
Rapport building strength?
Unknown. I stopped the conversation.
No eye roll expressions like a Juggler escalation though. So possibly a superior opening gambit.
6.
Your PUA-AFC level?
2/5
7.
Number of times tested?
twice / once. 1.5, Waterstones girls only count as half human.
Note worked a whole lot better than JM did last time I macked on staff in Waterstones.
8.
Any additional insight?
Didn’t feel I could do Bravo’s kick ass closing joke on either set, because they hadn’t contributed enough, so felt it would sound contrived.
Didn’t really like the ‘vagueness’ of the opener
‘a kick ass restaurant’
Or the vagueness over dates of events occuring.
So I made it specific.
I think the line about paying, although a DHV, is cumbersome to say, (feels unnatural) because it has no real purpose, just holds things up.
I liked the expansion bit ‘if a guy does this is it a stalker move’, that was a really helpful bit. Allowed me to react to their unput well – as if it had really happened.
Bravo do you really say
‘our waitress was REALLY hot, and cool as hell!’
I did, but…. I think it increased my nerves because its not my standard thing to say.
It’s good. I’ll use it again.
January 12th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Bravo, if us over-40 guys talk about MySpace, it’s a mjor DLV because the thought goes immediately to “pedophile”. I have one for my entertainer career promotion, but I do not bring it up often.
January 12th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Just hte same as if we tried an opener about taking a college class.
January 12th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
1. I only used this opener twice this weekend. I used it on two different hired guns. Both times it worked.
2. I had to read over it a few times before I had it memorized. I give it a three and a half to memorize the routine verbatim. 5 being easy to memorize.
3. No, I did not get called out this weekend.
4. One of the hired guns had more time than the other and was willing to chat with me and give me her take on it. The other gave me advice but made it rather quick because she became busy.
5. From my experience I would give it 3 for rapport.
6. 2/5 is my pua experience. 5 being an expert at this stuff.
7. Number of times tested? 2.
8. Any additional insight? Yes, I think if you are comfortable with being an alpha male with this routine and you can sell it. You are one step closer to getting what you want.
January 12th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Facebook is for younger people in my opinion, when it first started you had to have a school email address to get it.
Also tons of older people on myspace, I know they message me all the time!
Unless you have tried this and consistently gotten that feedback, I don’t want to hear about what MAY happen. You can always modify routine later, but the whole point of Pick Up Labs is to separate fact from fiction!
If that does happen then that gets inputted into the results, that it is an opener for a younger person.
Copy?
January 12th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Sense you bring up an interesting point and it makes sense. I feel Facebook is more realistic for us older gents to be on than Myspace.
However, I used the Bravo’s opener just like he wanted us to and I still had success opening with it.
January 12th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
Copy! Over and out.
January 12th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
1. Does it open successfully? 5/5. Every set I approached opened with ease. Combined with the bread and butter of false time constraints and body rocking it was a solid opener.
2. How difficult is this routine to master? Not hard at all. I read this once. I’d say 4/5 because you have to either remember some small details or make them up as you go. Things like when she added you what message she left (chance to dhv). If you have the details down it seems all the more beliveable.
3.Did you get called out on using this routine? No. Back to the previous statment if you know your details it’s alot more beliveable.
4.What is the hook point strength of this routine? The ability to DHV and turn the tables with the opposite if a guy did this to a girl. It allows for alot of hooks to pull and threads to create. 5/5
5.Rapport building strength? 3/5. The story came up a few times later in the conversations with the sets. It was also good at getting opinions for hooks and new threads. However, none of the sets had similar stories to share, just opinions.
6.Your PUA-AFC level? 3/5 Always willing to push the limits and find new creative ways to apply life changing skills into real life situations.
7.Number of times tested? 3
8.Any additional insight? Very successful with the foundations of PU (FTC’s and body rocking) Allows for DHV on a basic level with the story but has loads of opportuinity to increase that DHV with smaller details in the story. I also found it worked much better with only one male in the set
January 12th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
As soon as I saw this opener, I knew it was too easy and good to NOT get a reaction. I can recall a set on Saturday night that was actually not really opening up to me UNTIL I dropped this. As soon as I did, the girl actually turned into me, instead of AWAY (the way she was turning). Friday Night I opened a HUGE 12 set with it and all of them exploded into questions and wanted to know more, others wanted to know why, some said they would approve the person, others said I would be crazy, while they all agreed the person doing it is crazy… I used it in a 3-set and shot VIGILANTE in as I winged him (I have pix of these girls, they were smoking HOT).
1.Does it open successfully?
This routine was ran A LOT between me and my wing. It was a big hit. This is a SOCIAL PROOF HOMERUN OPENER. . .
5/5 for success
2.How difficult is this routine to master?
Easier than learning my ABC’s for the first time. 5/5 for VERY easy.
3.Did you get called out on using this routine?
I personally did NOT.
4.What is the hook point strength of this routine?
H U G E. . . More hooks than a HELLRAISER movie. 5/5 for STRONG
5.Rapport building strength?
See above answer. Just the same. Once you dropped it, you were in. It NEVER FAILED. 5/5 for being STRONG. . .
6.Your PUA-AFC level?
Scale of 1-5 I would be about a 3.5.
7.Number of times tested?
I lost count after all the sets opened. It worked in big sets, it worked in small sets. I would say atleast 15 times total for the weekend.
8.Any additional insight?
I used the MYSPACE part about as Many times as I used the FACEBOOK part. To be honest, using the FACEBOOK OPENER seemed more logical, because not too many people put their full name on MYSPACE. But for some odd reason, they will put EVERYTHING on FACEBOOK. . . Either way, same routine and it had the SAME success… Hired guns, men, women, big groups, small sets. It just f#cking worked.
January 13th, 2009 at 12:05 am
Opened a straight two set today at the bookstore with this. Should have tested it Sunday night when I saw some mixed sets (including an 8 set with only one guy), but was feeling like crap and let the opportunity slip through my fingers.
I wouldn’t have been able to live with myself if I didn’t try this at least once during testing, so I worked with what I had today. Other than leaving the thing out about the guy at the very beginning, everything else was the same.
It opened exactly as expected. They were both interested the whole time, and both said it was just weird for that girl to find me on myspace like that. At that point I thanked them and went along my way. I was feeling like crap and found out later I had a 104 degree temperature, so Im happy I just opened at all feeling like that.
Anyway, the numbers.
1. Does it open successfully? Emphatically yes. This opener felt more natural than any opener Ive gotten from other people. 5/5
2. How difficult is this routine to master? Not difficult at all. Just remembering to have the name of a restaurant or the name of a waitress ready if asked were the only things. 5/5 (if 5 means good)
3. Did you get called out on using this routine? Nope 5/5
4. What is the hook point strength of this routine? Both were very interested in this story. 4/5
5. Rapport building strength? Not really sure as I left as soon as I was finished.
6. Your PUA-AFC level? 2.5/5
7. Number of times tested? Just once
8. Any additional insight? None at this moment.
January 14th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
I had a chance to test this out last night while on a movie set. I was sitting at a table with a few of the actresses (one of which is very cute) and their makeup lady. Conversation was dead so I busted out a modified version of the Myspace opener.
Opened great. All the girls were instantly drawn in. I could tell it was a great DHV. Another actress sitting like three feet away who I’d never even talked to even jumped in on the conversation.
I’ll need to work it more to find out good ways to thread into other things but I think it’s brilliant.
January 17th, 2009 at 6:55 am
Bravo, you need to run these test long, I work way too much and don’t get out enough.
1. Yes it open’s succesfully
2. It’s pretty simple to master, just a matter of saying it a couple times to get all the details correct.
3. No
4. It seems real and women want to give there opinion on it.
5. Rapport is strong as the two times I tried it they had something some what like it happen to them.
6. 1 year in the game
7. 2 times
8. It’s a bit long for an opener it becomes a huge conversation but hooks well. It is now in my cheat sheet!
January 19th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Thanks for the feedback Dchipy.
We want a new routine up here each week so guys have something to test over each weekend.
Soon the missions will be continuously updated.